Lago Vista Property Owners Association LVPOA
Lago Vista and Lago Vista Property Owners Association LVPOA reach agreement on Boggy Ford park
Nancy Oliver announced the agreement in the July 14, 2011 Lago Vista Property Association Board of Directors meeting. There may be more to it than you know. Read more here.
Is our own Lago Vista City Council advertisement a part of the reason for the frequent battles over our Lago Vista Property Owners Association LVPOA private parks? Why doesn't our own Lago Vista City Council respect our interests?
Why do members of a private entity keep having to fight off people who believe their private Lago Vista Property Owners facilities are public resources? Could it be intentional and caused by our own Lago Vista City Council, the Lago Vista Economic Development Alliance, and our own Lago Vista Property Owners Association Board of Directors? Read more here.
Are two Lago Vista Economic Development Alliance advertisements a part of the reason for the frequent battles over our Lago Vista Property Owners Association LVPOA private parks? Why doesn't the Lago Vista Economic Development Alliance respect our interests?
Why do members of a private entity keep having to fight off people who believe their private Lago Vista Property Owners facilities are public resources? Could it be intentional? The first advertisement is on the Lago Vista Economic Development Alliance website. The second advertisement is on the Lago Vista City Council website but the first page is labeled Lago Vista Economic Development Alliance. Ask yourself, do these two public advertisements cause the Lago Vista Property Owners Association facilities appear to be public recreation and tourism resources in the eyes of the public? Read more here.
Are these advertisements part of the reason for the frequent battles over our Lago Vista Property Owners Association LVPOA private parks? Why doesn't our Board protect our interests?
Why do members of a private entity keep having to fight off people who believe their private Lago Vista Property Owners facilities are public resources? Could it be intentional? Read more here.
The LVPOA still will not release the vote tally about the Park Lease from April 2011! Why?
Why have vote results been hidden from the owners? The directors have a fiduciary duty of loyalty which is often described as requiring an extreme measure of candor, unselfishness, and good faith on the part of Directors and Officers. Shareholder members are owners of the Lago Vista Property Owners Association. Owners should be informed the final vote tally of votes within any organization they own. Have you ever seen a vote where the Board of Directors withheld the vote tally from the owners? Read more here.
Lago Vista Property Owners Association Articles of Incorporation, the Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions, and the By-laws
The Lago Vista Property Owners Association is governed by several important documents. Some Directors like to focus on the by-laws. But, the by-laws are one of the lowest levels. There is a hierarchy of legal constraints on the LVPOA Directors power. Above that are the Articles of Incorporation, and the Declaration of Covenants and Restrictions, which are both organization specific. Above that are common law, state law, and federal law. The by-laws are the bottom and each level is constrained by ALL the ones above it. More information, including the documents, are here.
There are game changers here! "Texas Homeowners Association Law" copyright 2010, by Gregory S. Cagle, a legal expert on the subject in the state of Texas
There are game changers here! I received my copy from a retired judge who knows about our LVPOA parks issues. He labeled sections for me to read, use, and share. Don't be fooled by the directors saying the by-laws let them do it, and don't be fooled by the directors saying they're elected, so they can do anything they want, arguments ever again! Read more here.
My ideal platform for a Lago Vista Property Owners Association (LVPOA) Director, and for the Board of Directors as a group
Here is a starter set of ideas of what I would like to see from both individual directors, and from the board of directors as a whole. Perhaps you would like to see the same attributes. I see these as speaking to core functionality. This is certainly not an exhaustive list, just the minimum expected of a director on the board of directors of a private company. Read more here.
Worried about LVPOA BOD meeting bullies? Female protesters in Egypt tortured, subjected to 'virginity test'
For those of you who said you are afraid of the bullies in the LVPOA BOD meetings, how about some perspective. If others are going through this and are still standing, are you really going to remain afraid? Read more here.
Don't Be Fooled, Know who has been truthful, who hasn't: Documentation regarding the Park sale and Lease events from June 2010-April 2011
The information below has been left on line for archival purposes, so we are never fooled again. The park lease is dead, but it is always relevant to know who has a history of giving accurate information and who doesn't, especially because as of this date, June 2011, some of the same people continue to serve on the board, or have influence on the current board members. The information below is historical information, the park lease is dead.
If you are a LVPOA member in March 2010 you should have received a card regarding a park lease. You may also have received a citizen mailer about a petition to stop the lease. I have uploaded it below. it is their petition I am simply making it more widely available since owners of these lots live all over.
To many of us it's the COLVCC takeover of the currently private park and when the family brought us the petition, it included quotes from Blaine Standiford, a current LVPOA Board director's facebook page - "We have a long range planning committee that is dealing with that and Cody will probably be the next one, but that plan is in the works. Also, the 9 acres we just bought on Boggy. We have land, the problem is $$$$$." This has been going on in several forms for months and it has been handled in a really strange way. It started with an attempted purchase under odd conditions, a public meeting was requested, Mayor Randy Kruger said no public meeting, and when that failed he was willing to have private ones on a lease. During this time the LVPOA Board of Directors was giving us little or no information, and in some cases giving us demonstrably false information as I can prove here. There is a lot to go into. Some of it is incredibly detailed because some people were denying the obvious. You can read it for yourself in the posts below. You can read the raw emails in the Email Index but if you do, you will miss a lot. Here, as in life, the emails are part of the story. The narratives list the events outside the emails such as meetings, and contains outside links where needed to news articles in the North Lake Travis Log. It also puts the emails in order and provides links to pdfs containing the email threads so you can verify all the emails for yourself.
It is not my intent to complain or whine, it is to inform. If people learn what is happening, it makes it harder for the LVPOA BOD or the COLV CC to continue doing what they are doing, and although it may take some time, things improve over time.
In the April 14, 2011 LVPOA BOD public meeting, the LVPOA BODs said they voted not to pursue the Greenshore lease 4/11/2011, but there were several parks in play, and the Board still claims it authorized by the Bylaws to make a decision like this without discussing it with the membership. So, is it really over?
Blaine Standiford, an LVPOA director said recently on his facebook page "We have a long range planning committee that is dealing with that and Cody will probably be the next one, but that plan is in the works. Also, the 9 acres we just bought on Boggy. We have land, the problem is $$$$$." (petition page 2) The March 10, 2011 LVPOA BOD meeting minutes finally brought some of this to light as well. April 14, 2011 the LVPOA BODs say the one park deal is off. What about the other parks? As of April 19, 2011, the LVPOA website still doesn't say anything about the other parks. So, I'm reading that literally by NOT assuming it applies to all parks until we see some confirmation. Also, the LVPOA BODs said the Greenshore park deal was "dead" but it really wasn't, 3 times since June 2010. You can read more about the April 14, 2011 meeting here.
The petition to prevent leasing our LVPOA parks is here!
Click here to read the petition. This is the same one the families have been handing out door to door. I added it because my volume mailer went to lots, too, not just houses. It is their petition. They are fighting for privacy so I redacted their names. If you already signed one in the past month, it was theirs, the same as this one. I promise to hand deliver replies to them as-is and unread. Individual Initiative and I as an individual, will NOT keep nor collect ANY information of ANY kind from the replies. The petition is a PDF file which requires Adobe Reader. Many pc's have Adobe Reader already installed. On the off chance you don't have Adobe Reader already installed, Adobe Reader is available free from the Adobe Reader download website here. http://www.adobe.com/products/reader.html
There have been attempts to commercialize our parks going back as far as June 2010, getting straight answers out of the LVPOA BODs has proved challenging
I believe Lagopalooza was the beginning of attempts at the commercialization of the parks. That is at least as far back as I know now, there may have been items earlier. I'm not saying there was a master plan, but I do believe some tried straightforward commercialization with Lagopalooza. In the same time frame, in a later posts, which are below, I can prove they tried a private meeting park sale. When that didn't work, they tried a public meeting sale. When that didn't work, now, they are trying a park lease. These emails also show the Lago Vista Property Owners Association Board Members often will evade the question or attack the questioner rather than answer basic questions. That's why it's important to look over the past, even the recent past, since those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it. Read more here.
Obviously, they were not listening, how did we get the LVPOA Board of Directors attention?
This is a description of just some of the emails to show what efforts we had to go through with our own POA that we pay good money for just to get their attention. We should not have had to go through all this and it still hasn't stopped, we're still fighting a park lease. The emails on this page are not evidentiary ones about the POA, these descriptions are included for context which helps understand why they wrote the evidentiary ones. The big take away item here is how we finally got their attention about Lagopalooza. Read more here.
Dave Freeman's infamous "Community Burden" email, also Nancy Oliver, Jo Anne Molloy, and Gary Gates respond
July 4, 2010, this is Dave Freeman's infamous "Community Burden" email which states in part "Based on other feedback we've received, the LVPOA board, our General Manager, and LVPOA staff plan to have discussions on how we best address the issue of community type events in the future. I see the major problem with the LVPOA holding community events of this type is due to the City of Lago Vista not having any public park, lake access, or community type facilities where any type of public event can be held. This has led to the current situation where the LVPOA is carrying the "community burden" of holding any type of public event on private parks owned by our membership. Unless the COLV does something in the near future to resolve of not having any type of public facilities (other than golf courses), the issue of holding "Public Events" on LVPOA properties is only going to increase as the overall population of the COLV grows with the ever enlarging city boundaries." Read more here.
Private LVPOA park sale meeting occurs, a later joint public meeting request stopped by Mayor Randy Kruger
July 08, 2010 Gary Gates emailed me "Thanks for your thoughts. Confidentially the Board has had a second wake up call from all of your efforts. The City is collecting money from developers for Parks. They have spent the money no one knows. The city has no idea what they will be doing about parks. The Board is starting to force the city's hand by asking for a PUBLIC MEETING with the city and council. Mr. Kruger says OK, but wants the meeting private. We are saying no way, PUBLIC. We offered to sell the city Green Shores Park , under used and next to city property for a Fair market value of around $950,000. Thant would go a long way toward building a new Activity Center . Mr. Kruger said no, not interested, but the POA should give the City Bar K of a $1. I think you see why more folks need to get involved. Stay tuned about the PUBLIC meeting in early September if it comes off. See you tonight." Notice here, he is talking about a meeting that has already taken place, and the public meeting has not occurred. Read more here.
City master plan includes private POA facilities, Gary Gates makes a splash with his letter to the editor
Despite all that happened, and as clearly frustrated as I was sometimes, I still thought I was dealing primarily with misunderstandings. So when I had a chance to complement two of the LVPOA people on a job well done, I was happy to do so. Also, Gary Gates makes a splash with his letter to the editor. Read more here.
I asked the 2010 LVPOA BOD what obligations does the POA have to the city or to other developers? Simple questions. But, the answers...
I made a mistake and it took me two emails to get all my questions out. I thought they were easy questions. Remember, as I've stated in prior posts, the LVPOA Board kept saying in an email and in meetings that we had a "community obligation". I was trying to find out if that truly existed. As far as I can tell, it does not exist. But, they won't admit that it does not exist, so they act as though it does. I go through the emails here and you can judge for yourself. This process did start out ok, but little did I know... Read more here.
I asked the new 2011 LVPOA BOD about the park sale. The 2010 BODs had told me to ask the 2011 BODs so asking the question should be a cakewalk right? Not so much...
Notice after all this from June until November I still did not have an answer about the future of the park! Back in October, see last post, several directors had said it was a matter for the new board. So it had to wait. In the meantime, several of us communicated with candidates so we could pool resources to save time for all concerned, and waited for the election so I could ask the next board. The board was finally elected, and seated. THIS IS IMPORTANT: I had already confirmed the private park sale meeting, three of the five board members knew they had told me to wait until the new board was seated. Three of them had been involved since June as 2010 board members. It was time to ask. The questions for the next board continues here. That's where it gets even stranger. Read more here.
November 11, 2010 LVPOA BOD meeting gets hot, but I finally get some answers. For one Dave Freeman said they dropped the asking price from $1.6 million to $950,000 while saying we didn't have to sell. Nancy Oliver sets up the COLV Committee (we find out later - park lease). Blaine Standiford reacts...
For months, the 2010 board kept trying to give me half answers that would leave me with an impression but not really answer the question, in my view. You can read them in all the posts and decide for yourself. Since I didn't get answers I went to this meeting to get them there. I was tired of the runaround so I was intentionally being very detailed and very specific to make it harder to not understand. It was time to get some answers, if that were possible. Read more here.
Following the November 11, 2010 LVPOA BOD meeting Blaine Standiford continued to deny the obvious, demanded proof of what he'd already heard, so I sent it to him.
Immediately following the current November 11, 2010 meeting Blaine accosted me outside the meeting room. He was still denying the park meeting, even though he was sitting right there in the meeting with me when it was all said.I repeatedly offered to go back inside with him to talk with Dave since Dave was still there. Blaine repeatedly said no. I repeatedly offered to go back inside with him to listen to the tape of the meeting we were just in. Blaine repeatedly said no. Blaine asked for proof. I offered to send it to him. I did send it to him the next day. It was the time stamped emails of the private meeting and the open meeting. All of which are both inserted in the next post. To date Blaine never responded. Wouldn't an honest person see time stamped emails and reply, yes, you were right? Read more here.
Following the November 11, 2010 LVPOA BOD meeting, I saw Karen's email, and I tried to show her what I'd faced in that meeting so others wouldn't have to face it going forward
I normally thank people for answers. That was my initial intent for responding to her email, simply thanks. However when I went to click send, I realized I had seen others attacked like I had been. It hit me in my reply I could both thank her and attempt to do a pay it forward for someone by explaining to Karen what I'd just endured. The hope was the next time someone else came before the board and was attacked unfairly she would recognize what was happening and do the right thing. It would only take one board member speaking up consistently and doing the right thing to put an end to all the nonsense. I didn't know if Karen was that person or not, but it couldn't hurt to try. Read more here.
Surprise! The LVPOA has been working on a park lease!
It would only take one board member speaking up consistently and doing the right thing to put an end to all the nonsense. But, apparently that isn't happening and isn't going to happen. The LVPOA board told me on November, 11, 2010 there were no park deals, they were done and over. In fact, they were so done and over, they tried everything they could to make me look foolish for asking, denying anything was going on. But, in the exact same meeting they put in the COLV committee which is the mechanism which was used for the park lease discussions. I heard about it a couple of months later.At first, I was sure somehow the old deal with the park sale which I'd been told was old and dead, had come back as a rumor with slight changes to sound new. Same park. Lease instead of a sale. Same people except Blaine added. Blaine Standiford involved. Nancy Oliver involved. Dave Freeman involved. Mayor Randy Kruger involved. Nope, it really was new. Read more here.
Lago Vista Property Owners Association Email Index
No one likes releasing emails. But, when one is faced with people who will say one thing in private, another in public, and who will deny what is written, or what they have said, what is one to do? Without evidence, it is ones word against another. This is a list of the email threads entered as evidence. This is not all of the emails, but there are enough of them to prove the points. Individual articles link to email threads.